Oprah & JK Rowling in Scotland

today on location in Scotland I went from utter obscurity it was like being a Beatle is it true that you still take the bus the billionaire mom behind the Harry Potter Empire JK Rowling you gotta meet her this is the thing I've never really spoken about I know you went through a period of depression one of the most fascinating interviews I've ever done in regret the hugely hugely clunk about to make myself cry next the JK rowling legend begins with a delightful children's book about an orphan boy wizard with a lightning-shaped scar a boy with a magical destiny a destiny shared by his creator JK Rowling is the first self-made billionaire author in history selling more than four hundred million books captivating readers in 69 languages and 200 countries around the world Harry's final chapter the Deathly Hallows is the fastest selling book of all time no wonder she's credited with doing more for literacy than anyone else on the planet her Empire spans movies merchandize even an amusement park the Harry Potter blockbusters are the highest-grossing movie franchise in Hollywood history rictusempra raking in 5.3 billion dollars and still counting so this is the first time we've met yes it is and my producers tell me that your real name is Joe well this time I thought you were Jay Jay Hey yeah but Jay K is just the NAM to it well it's because my British publisher when the first book came out thought this is a book that will appeal to boys but they didn't want the boys to know a woman have written it so they said to me could we use your initials and I said fine I only have one initial I don't have a middle middle name so I took my favorite grandmother's name Katharine bathroom and Kathleen Kathleen yeah Joe Kathleen Joanne Kathleen and fooled the boys for a while yeah not for too long not for too long yeah because I started giving my picture in the press and no one could pretend I was manning yes and I don't think the boys have minded no it hasn't helped me back cuz it may not help me back not a bit when we came just arrived yesterday it is beautiful Scotland beautiful stunning yeah what's stunning yeah and the green is greener than any green I've ever seen gorgeous other than Ireland yes yeah so I can understand why you love being here is there something about being here in this particular hotel where we are that you thought would be particularly stimulating to your creative process and that's why you wanted to come here to finish well it turned out to be stimulating and as I was finishing deathly hallows though came a day where the window cleaner came the kids were at home and the dogs were barking and I could not work and this light bulb went on over my head and I thought I can throw money at this problem I can now solve this problem for years and years and years I just would go to a cafe and sit in a different kind of noise and work I thought I can go to a quiet place so I came to this hotel because it's a beautiful hotel but I didn't intend to stay here but they were so nice to me here and I I think writers can be a little bit superstitious so the first days writing went well so I kept coming back to this hotel and I ended up finishing the last of the Harry Potter books in this hotel we have a lot of things in common yeah first of all you know this is the last year that I'm doing the Oprah show yeah I will go on into other things mm-hmm but when I came to the end of Hallows the last trace of steam evaporated in the autumn air the train rounded a corner Harry's hand was still raised in farewell he'll be alright murmur Ginny as Harry looked at her he lowered his hand absent mindedly and touched the lightning scar on his forehead I know he will the scar had not pained Harry for 19 years all was well I came to the end of that I'm warned not only for the end of the series but for you I cannot imagine what that was like it was huge I can't imagine I kept um I it was a bereavement it was it was it was a bereavement it was huge I think one way although I knew it was coming we all know that the people we love a mortal we will nowhere we know it's gonna wind you cannot prepare yourself for it so even though I'd always known it would be seven books that was it I knew how it was going to end when it ended I was in a slight state of shock what did you do when you finished well initially I was elated but then there came a point I cried as I've only ever cried once before in my life and that was when my mother died it was uncontrollable and I'm not a big crier you know I'd cry but I'm not someone who can sort of keep crying going in here yeah you know what I mean some people can like do floods for hours I've never only twice in my life have I done that for seventeen years I'd had that through some very tumultuous times in my personal life and I you know I I'd always had that mm-hmm and if it was an escape for all these children you can imagine what it had been for me and it was not just the world it was the discipline of working and it was the structure it gave to my life and I knew I'd still be writing but I had to mourn Harry it was not all as well was gonna be the last life yeah do you always knew that well hmm that's a really good question because for a long time the last word was going to be scar that it was just it was just a it was it was just worded differently but I'd there and I had said that to fans the last word would be scar and then I changed my mind I just wanted the last words to be all as well all as well yeah but you know what happens ever after yeah I do yes I couldn't stop I don't think you can when you've been that involved with characters from that long it's still all in there they're all in my head still I mean I could write I could I could definitely write an eighth night I could easily will you I'm not gonna say I won't mm-hmm I don't think I will I loved writing those books I loved writing it so I feel I am done but you never know tell me did you ever feel that you had to succumb to the pressure because when you first started the first one the world didn't know yeah and afterwards once the deals made in the industry and the entire universe of Harry Potter began I'm sure the pressure was overwhelming at times yeah it was yeah it was I can say that now he because I'm free of it at the time I felt a need to deny how great the pressure was because that was my way of coping mm-hmm it happened so fast for me and it shouldn't have happened you know this was a children's book a children's book moreover that I've been told repeatedly wasn't very commercial because I've been turned down a lot so and I went from utter obscurity it was like being a Beatle there came a point where it was crazy it's such a great now than it was except people for Beatles it's so they could turn to each other and say my god this is crazy I couldn't turn to anyone so the pressure was in soon IV turned up to a book signing my second American tour my first American tour had been kind of hit and miss you know turned up for a second American tour I thought it was gonna be the same thing again we're in this car rolling down the street and there's just this cube block after block after block after block I'm looking out the window and I turn to the girlfriend publisher I said is there a sale on and we turn the corner and there was this enormous Barnes and Noble I thought God and the cue snake up the street at the Barnes Noble up through four floors and it took me in the back entrance they open the door and they screamed they screamed otherwise light bulbs went off of my face and I was oh my god and I signed 2,000 bucks and the cue hadn't ended we had to go yes we call queues lines lines the line lying a line where all I'm in on the line went on and on and on yeah how and that is when you knew yeah that's a real stand-up moment for me I mean I knew it was getting big in that that you know there was press attention and so on but at that point that for me was the real that was when it felt beetle esque that's when it started to get crazy so you asked about the pressure at that point I kept saying to people young guy camping I'm coping the truth was there were times when I was barely hanging by a thread coming up Joe takes on the harsh critics what about all the criticism that you received from a lot of religious people and opens up about her insecurities and later Michael Jackson makes Joe a big offer it is the land of bad pipes whiskey kills and castles Scotland is also home to the queen of the publishing world billionaire mom JK Rowling I traveled to Edinburgh to meet JK in the city where her beloved boy wizard Harry Potter left from her fantastical imagination into the hearts of millions here among the cobblestone streets and quaint cafes JK then a struggling single mother wrote The Sorcerer's Stone longhand while her young daughter slept by her side but isn't it interesting that in the first book when Harry is being dropped off at his uncle's yeah it is predicted one shot one day every child in the world will know his name one day every child in the world will know his name well the screen didn't you know knows they're part of you mark took on Charlie than you yeah I remember once and it was like it was like well like I'm gonna call it clash a flash of clairvoyance now obviously if I hadn't come true I would just be around and crazy for dad but I do remember one day writing philosopher's stone I was walking away from the cafe where I've been working Philosopher's Stone which became weightless which became sorceress knowing exactly so that's the first novel mm-hmm and I had this moment where I suddenly thought it was like another voice speaking to me in the voice said the difficult things gonna be to get published if it's published it will be huge Wow and that is exactly what it was so there was some hint that the voice had said to you well the thing is you've got to believe haven't you yes you know I was I was not the world's most secure person um I wasn't someone with an enormous amount of in fact I'd say I was someone with not much self belief at all and yet in this one thing in my life I believed that was the one thing in my life I felt I can tell a story is it true that it Justin you know I've heard the legend is that it just the story just entered your head while I'm yeah yeah that's true that is true I had been writing all I ever wanted to do from as from the age at which you understand that books are written they don't just Fontaine we grow out of the ground which for you is about six yeah five or six that's all I ever wanted to be was a writer yeah I wrote compulsively all through my late teens into my twenties and but I'd never really found the right thing you know and then I was on a train I was 25 and it came and what came was boy doesn't know he's a he's a wizard ghost a Wizarding school bang-bang-bang and then that was it and that was like touch paper and I was on this delayed train going from Manchester to London and my head was just flooding with what's at this wizard school there are four houses there a ghost there a house ghost what do they teach what subjects do they learn who are the teachers and I I had no pen and but that was it that was it out and I had I don't think I had ever felt so excited I thought I'd love to write that I didn't ever thought about writing for children I'd never thought about aiming anything at that age group and yet it was the thing that I was meant to write you know because I'd always been fascinated by folklore I love a cookie word I know key word I do I think the greatest gift the Harry Potter series has given to the world is the freedom to use our imaginations I really hope so oh I I'm very very frustrated by fear of imagination hmm us I don't think that's healthy what about all the criticism that you received from a lot of religious people who felt that it was too dark and frightening and wizardry and sorcerers and magic and all the like well I think um I love what you said I read this someplace where you said um you were not trying to convert people to Christianity when you wrote the book no no no mm-hmm I I'm not pushing any belief system here although there is a lot of Christian imagery in the books that's undeniable and certainly in Hallows there's a very clear right but that's not um that's an allusion to a belief system in which I was raised the to answer the question about how that felt how did that feel to be criticized if it criticized in that way well I tried to tease out okay what are they what what what are they being critical of here well if we're talking about the dark and scary stuff I think it's perfectly legitimate for a parent to say that's a little ol for my child or we're gonna need to discuss that together we'll read that together that's great in fact that's perfect sit down and read that together that would be amazing on the Chris on the you must not discuss witchcraft you must not have witches or magic depicting a book I'm afraid I find that nonsensical nonsensical in 100 200 300 years from now there'll be a new children's story that has witches and wizards and magic it will always be with us because it's a belief system that humanity passed through he still has huge attractions there's um there's a quotation that I almost used in the Harry Potter book and paraphrasing this won't be except in Magic Man has to rely on himself so in religion of course you're looking for outside support but if that's the appeal of magic I'm not saying I believe magic is real I don't but that's the perennial appeal of magic the idea that we ourselves have power and we can shape our world mm-hmm I sometimes think it's very analogous to having a lot of money that people think cuz that's kind of like a superpower I often thought this since all this happened to me people think well you can solve it anything now you think really doesn't work like that coming up you're known as the first billionaire author yeah is it true that you still take the bus and Joe's paparazzi shocker it's no way you're thinking I'm wildly successful they will want long lens photographs of me on the beach I beginning for our farewell season billionaire author JK Rowling granted us a rare interview in Edinburgh Scotland the city she calls home we sat down at the historic Balmoral Hotel this is where she completed the final chapters of Harry Potter's wondrous journey after selling more than four hundred million copies of this series it's hard to believe that 12 publishers rejected The Sorcerer's Stone 13 turned out to be a lucky number a publisher bewitched by the spectacular tale finally agreed to print it JK signed the deal with a warning from her agent you'll never make money writing children's books isn't it interesting how when you first get to understand what having money can do mm-hmm like you had to realize oh I don't have to yeah I don't have to be in a situation where I do did you feel that oh did it take you a while to understand and it still is a meet and it still does me – it still does I think it's that moment where you look you're you're trying to choose between two things that's happening to me and you son you realize shitty I I could get the balls like a good boy but thank you don't you not live like that for so long yeah so you know why because you understand what 25 pounds is sadly you know always yes always well five hundred dollars is you understand hell Express yes um in the United States you're known as the first billionaire author yeah yeah so how has being the first billionaire author affected your perception of yourself I dress better mm-hmm but that's not just about money because you meet lots of rich people who dress atrociously it's more that you can afford to wear you can definitely afford better clothes I think the bigger the single biggest thing that money gave me and obviously I came from a place where I was with I was a single mother and what it really was hand-to-mouth at one point and it was it was as literally as poor as you can get in Britain without being homeless at one point if you've ever been there you will never ever take for granted that you don't need to worry never are you in a place now where you can accept that you will always be rich no are you mmm kind of getting there really I hope I hope I hope I that sounds good unless I'm a unless I'm a complete say I guess I'm a false and jèrriais McCool I've never been a full with money so why do I worry but I do you know I think God if I blew this yeah how could I look everyone in the eye psychologically it's a difficult thing to come to terms with because it's like saying not allowing room for Never Say Never something you know something and you feel I feel I don't want to get complacent I don't want to take the road granted correct ID I just and after all wide you know what I'm talking absolutely rubbish on I I'm talking rubbish I mean I really would have to be very stupid but yeah I do still worry really yeah not all the time I mean mostly I feel great what do you actually think money has done for you what does it do it frees you well that's what it does it frees you that's why it's like a superpower you don't it frees you I mean we don't have to the luxury of literally being able to sit down and say where should we go for a holiday and not be in any way limited mm-hmm I hear you don't drive and now I don't drive no I cars terrify me I said I am really fine to cars so do you have a driver I of lately I have had a driver or are you later you still take the bus I read that you still take the bus occasionally within the last year I've taking the bus definitely yeah did you ever imagine your life being the way it is now no never and I really really mean ever it overshot the marks so ridiculously that I did it I was so unprepared for it this is the thing I've known ever really spoken about I was a writer I had no one near me either professionally or personally who could in anyway help me when I had questions like what do you do when the press is searching your bins what you know like the really crazy stuff that happens the stuff that makes you feel but that doesn't happen to most writers you don't what exactly exactly so it took everyone around me total device exactly like if you're an actress you play detective you know right that if I'm wildly successful that stuff will happen I'm right I'm not gonna like it but that will happen but as a writer there's no way you're thinking if I'm wildly successful they will want long runs of photographs of me on the beach i bikini never occurred to me in a million years so weren't prepared for it totally unprepared I'm really running scared for a while tell me we were talking about this earlier about people's criticism of you have you made peace with your relationship with God and do you call it God uh yes I do um I struggle with it I struggle with it but when you read the Potter books watch the Potter movies the theme that is consistent and that obviously in the end rules is love definitely love wind yes which is a which is a which is a concept that runs through all the major religions yes without exception and I think that there's a probably true of all writers but sometimes I know what I believe because of what I've written mm-hmm oddly if you'd asked me before I wrote it what did I believe I maybe couldn't have told you but it does come through strongly in the Potter books you're right it does and that um within the in love wins luck wins it does win we know it wins when the person dies love isn't turned off like her I was gonna say tap but it's faucet unless you had to translate cue line yes it isn't turned off and yeah it is an amazingly resilient um part of US isn't it mm-hmm so you believe in a higher power yeah I would say I do yes and would I call it god yes for want of a better word sometimes but yes yeah coming up Joe's decision to sever ties with her father I have my reasons anyone to share and she finally meets the love of her life – my hope is kiss hug to all single women out there before JK Rowling became one of the world's richest women she led a modest life as a secretary in London she was 25 years old when her mother died from multiple sclerosis sending Joe into an emotional tailspin desperate to escape the pain she moved to Portugal married and gave birth to her first daughter Jessica but the marriage was in Joe's words short and catastrophic she packed up her daughter moved to Scotland where she hit a new low Joe was clinically depressed and struggling to survive on welfare what did your first marriage teach you about yourself you know we've heard very little about it and you haven't spoken very much about it only that it was short-lived I think 13 months in a day yeah it was yeah that's what good three months in today what did you learn about yourself to never be repeated well I think the first and most important thing to say about that marriage is I would do it all again step for step to have Jessica who is incredible and the world's a better place for having her in it so you know don't regret a thing okay I think I repeated patterns from my first family as we often do in my selection of which is what my first husband yeah you drink that you say what did I learn mm-hmm I think that it taught me I'm proud that it taught me how that I had a strong survival instinct because when I knew that it was time to go my left did he hire you to know more of who you are did it bring you in eventually but I can't pretend that I walked straight out of that marriage and not experienced saying you know I feel enlightened in any way i felt quite shell-shocked mm-hmm I had a very very tiny baby and then I walked straight into poverty and depression so but in a strange way all of that yes was enormous lean ruminating and but I did a lot of thinking after that after that marriage ended primarily about me why why things have been has they as they had been and it was seven years before I met the right man but I think it needed to be seven years you know about that and when I really yeah I was really ready in 2001 Joel married anesthesiologist Neal Murray in a private ceremony at their home in Scotland today Joe and Neal are raising their three children in Edinburgh the strange thing is a week before I met Neil literally a week and I hope this gives hope to all single women out there I remember speaking to a very good friend and she said well what would you like in a man and I said I would need to be with someone intelligent because I just value that I said I would really like him to have his own career I thought these were really basic things okay integrity was very very important kindness and a very strong sense of who he was these were things that I would really like and then she looked at me and she said well that's not gonna happen you know the earth and I thank readers for Jesus and I thought okay yeah maybe that's Jesus yeah maybe that's not maybe that's not gonna happen were you okay with it I certainly wasn't crying my eyes out every night I could have done it but I'm glad not to have had to do it doing the process of all of this I understand are you still estranged from your father I am you are yeah yeah that's never an easy thing to do in the public eye but there you want you know do you think you'll ever make peace no I don't I don't um I think that it's such a huge thing to be estranged from a parent that obviously you would there would have to be very big reasons for that you have your reasons I have my reasons any you want to share it wasn't a good relationship from my point of view from effort for a very long time but I had a need to please and I kept that going for a long time and then there it just came a point at which I I had to pull up and say I can't do this anymore and yeah you do you regret that he can't be a part of this success well the the estrangement happened post success so you know he was he was there for a while mhm um if I'm totally honest with you I regret much more than my mother never saw any of it me that yeah that's a bit of a killer I mean she would have just what she loved reading it I can honestly say I know a hundred percent she would have adored it mm-hmm yeah I really started writing before she yep I had told her about her knee I would and I would have done you know I would have told her about it and I know she would have really liked it mm-hmm I think she was uh I think was six months before she died I started writing yeah and I never shared it with her so that's great that yeah hugely hugely but the odd thing is I think this is life isn't it the books wouldn't be what they are she hadn't died I mean her death is on virtually every other page I'm off the Harry Potter books you know but at least half of Harry's journey is a journey to deal with death in its many forms what it does to the living what it means to die what what survives death it's there in every single what the log of your parents don't absolutely how that abide you still yes exactly exactly so if she hadn't died I don't think it's too strong to say there wouldn't be Harry Potter they wouldn't you know the books are what they are because she died because I loved her and she died that's why they are what they are would it also be fair to say that your life everything in your life because I know you went through a period of depression and mmm I had read that the Dementors came from that depression eeeh in Harry Potter's world the Dementors are dark creatures who feed off human happiness causing depression and despair to those in their path Dementors are capable of consuming a person's soul would it be fair to say that you've used in the 17 year process of writing the Potter series that you used the good the bad and the ugly of your life definitely definitely and expressed it through your writing yep through the Potter stories special well depression is a true clinical depression is it is a is it is a terrible place to be terrible place until you became depressed after your mother died yes but I think it was a kind of delayed I think I had tendencies towards depression from quite young it became really acute um when I was sort of 25 to 28 at work was a very was a dark time if that absence of feeling in this it's even the absence of hope that you can feel better and it's so difficult to describe to someone who's never been there but it because it's not sadness sadness is I know sadness sadness is not a bad thing you know to cry and to feel but it's that it's that cold absence of feeling that really hollowed out feeling that's what the Dementors are mm-hmm and it was because of my daughter that I went and got help coming up how Jo's epic failure became a billion-dollar success story and why she turned down the King of Pop that's big that you did not expect a lot of things so why do I talk about the benefits of failure simply because failure meant a stripping away of the in essential I stopped pretending to myself that I was anything other than what I was and began to direct all my energy into finishing the only work that mattered to me I was set free because my greatest fear had been realized and I was still alive and I still had a daughter whom I adored and I had an old typewriter and a big idea and so rock bottom became the solid foundation on which I rebuilt my life it is impossible to live without failing at something unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all I love the Harvard speech where you're a little nervous going to speak to heart I believe in you I was really easily the most frightening thing I've ever done in my life easily it felt very exposing because this wasn't me um reading out words that had already been approved do you know what I mean hmm I used to be borderline phobic about public speaking Wow really yeah really shaking so badly I couldn't I didn't know what sentence I was on so I've come a long way I'm still not at public speaking I've got better at but there are things like having to give a speech on TV still scares me so much I can't deal with that very easily this feels very easy I'm just gonna say this is different this is different well exactly like a conversation you're quite good at this you know think they say so the most important thing about that speech I think first of all you talked about how rock bottom became the foundation from which you rebuilt your life mm-hmm but the most important thing was about how to use failure vania vania is so important it doesn't get spoken about enough we speak about success all the time hmm but you know I do not know any I haven't met and I've been so fortunate and that extraordinary people through Harry Potter and not one of them didn't have their failure the more in one failure and it's the ability to resist to resist failure in many ways will use vain that often leads the greatest success isn't it so yeah failure yeah I've often met people who who are terrified you know in a straitjacket of their own making because they'd rather do anything than fail they don't want to try for fear of failing well that's the rock bottom thing rock bottom wasn't fun at all I'm not gonna romanticize rock bottom but it was liberating what did I have to lose why are you reluctant to increase the Empire yeah meaning the theme parks the doll figures I mean there is an entire Potter universe there is anything you imagine in the world it's been pot arised I can only say to you it could be so much worse it could be Michael Jackson wanted to do the musical really mm-hmm that's big that Michael Jackson a lot of things we do you control all of it no I mean no I have a say for me it's it I love the films I love the books and there are elements that are really fun around it now with a theme park when they came to us they came to us with a really extraordinary proposal which is that this will be state-of-the-art and it will be like nothing anyone has ever seen and they could back that up they showed us their ideas and I thought yeah this this could be amazing but I only wanted to do it if it was going to be incredible and it truly is I mean if I had been a reader of the books I would have wanted to go there coming up Clive but I've got thoughts make myself cry an emotional moment we didn't see coming and later Joe's burning question for me I mean to you you're coming to the end of this how does that feel in my magazine I do a column at the end of the magazine called what do you know for sure and every month when I write it I'm like I don't know what things you asked me what do I know for sure this is gonna be tricky okay okay yeah but I'm I'm promising it by saying it's difficult to know what you know for sure yet is what what do you um well I definitely know that that love is is the most powerful thing of all and I remember thinking that um I've got that to make myself cry but I remember thinking that when 9/11 happened hmm because those last phone calls were all about the last thing knowingly that I'm I'm gonna stay on this earth is I love you what's more powerful now what's more proof than that beyond fear beyond death um so interesting that you mentioned 9/11 yeah I think about them all the time it's such a huge it is a defining moment in our lives hmm I remember thinking they can't have could they've come down yes hmm then I turned on the TV and yeah so uh yeah and my edit and I panicked because I have good friends in New York and I emailed my two best friends in New York one of whom is my editor Arthur Levine and bizarrely he was able to email him that virtually immediately and he's last line in his email was and they say we shouldn't teach children about evil mmm cuz we had had many a discussion about that mm-hmm what is your dream of happiness um well in the in the in the first Harry Potter book Dumbledore says to Harry the happiest man alive would look in the mirror and see himself exactly as he is uh-huh so I would have to say that I'm pretty close and will you be writing more death Oh God definitely I can't yeah I literally can't stop well I mean you could tie my hands to my sites I suppose what I have to write for my own mental health I need to write yeah so that's how you know you're a writer yeah well exactly yeah yeah I love it I need to do it I mean do you you you're coming to the end of this how does that feel it feels like the time is right for the end of this yeah of this exactly yeah and would I be able to completely withdraw from the public and never sit and talk to or have the curiosity to talk about another person's life or hear their stories no that's why I'm creating my own network but I read something recently it was the story of Michael Jackson in the making of thriller and in that story the writer said um Michael Jackson never realized that thriller was a phenomenon that it being the number one selling album of all times is a phenomenon that what happened when that album came out and people all over the world doing that dance and listening to every song Amaya mmm-hmm is a phenomenon and that he spent his life chasing the phenomenon that and therefore was never satisfied I read it not really resonate and that mean really resonated with me too and I thought I don't want to be that exactly I don't want to be chasing the phenomenon yeah that I know I happy to do it again I have to do it again have to do it again I want it I'm really proud that I did it yeah and I'm sure you feel the same it's exactly how this is a new face this yes that I will bring this to a close just as you have brought that to close and then I will go on to whatever that next chapter is and let that be whatever that is going to be I feel exactly the same it would be more interesting if I disagreed I do feel in that interview yeah and that's so resonated with me the part that stayed with me yeah that was that was life-changing for me in that moment kik switched I thought oh that's why I was so afraid of moving forward with this idea the network cuz I'm thinking how am I gonna top this how am I gonna make it how am I gonna do that you have to it's a completely separate thing yeah and it will be paralyzing it's paralyzing hopefully if you're gonna spend your whole life changing like that because the fact that that wasn't to be that huge thank you Robert I didn't create that in the first place that was yeah kismet Universal divine order Jesus all of it so yes that brings me to the final question for you yeah yeah is there or was there has there been a part of you that feels I've got the top Harry no and I really mean that and I get it you know I get asked that the pill it's not even people don't ask me that interestingly people tell me that people say to me well you must just think well how on earth am I to talk about how will and I think no I really truly don't think that it was amazing it was also insane at times yes and there are parts of that insanity I'll be quite glad to me you became a Beatle I'm sure for a while but it you know I'm so grateful I had it on so many of your levels and I love the people who read the books I dedicated the last book to the people dearest to my heart and the seventh part of that dedication you're so reader hurry up with Harry right all right the waiter with me I love her yeah which is exactly how I feel about all the people who stuck with me yeah yeah I feel I feel that and when I was saying I'm making the announcement for leaving the show the only time I teared up and in the future you know even sitting in meetings the only time only thing makes me cries thinking about the viewers the people who made it all possible I'm sure well I feel totally the same way that there was a girl came up to me the other day in the street sort of bloomed out of the pavement in front of me like she'd operated and she must have been early twenties and she said to me you are my childhood oh I know ah that's not the nicest thing anyone's ever said yeah all right that is pretty good yeah that was so much fun job that was really funny so much thank you

48 thoughts on “Oprah & JK Rowling in Scotland

  1. I made a new video about how Gandalf (Ian McKellen) turned down the role of Dumbledore after Richard Harris's death. Go check it out if you want!

  2. I live in the UK and never read or watch any of the Harry Potter book or film. It's crazy, I kind of stay away from fiction after my experience with religion. I dont derive pleasure from fiction because I know it's made up.

  3. Hello I am a novice writer. I write short stories and novels l have published my first book on amazon online (the gates opener. Miracle birth book 1). Three years ago lhave been working in media and I have not been read by anyone. What do you advise me to read and spread?

  4. Just randomly came across this video, ironically her books inspired me to write fiction as a child, and as i got older i grew into my passion for drawing and illustration. My love for writing has always remained though and I’m now creating my first book combining my art and love for story telling, as well as illustrate books for other published authors whose work I love. Thank you for sparking a flame in my childhood Rowling🙏🏾

  5. Lol starting right off with a misogynist point about her publisher forcing her to alter her published name…

  6. I was 10 when the first book was released, so I grew up with them. I’m proud to have 7 of the 400+ million books sold!

  7. I loved reading the Harry Potter series. And, Joanne Rowling's personal story is such an inspiration. :). She started out as a single mother on welfare, clinically depressed. However, she kept writing and planning out her series, as well as raising her firstborn daughter. Now, she is arguably the most well-known children's Fantasy author, besides CS Lewis. JRR Tolkien was superb, I loved Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. They've inspired me to write my own Fantasy series. I am determined to write this series and explore the themes that I am interested in: sisterly/sibling bonds, spirituality, Light and Darkness, and magic. In fact, the first book is already on Amazon's Kindle/KDP. I am currently working on the sequel. There will be four book in total. The premise of the entire series is: Adria, Anastasia and Celestina must fight the Darkness, which is a negative force which existed alongside of their deity, the Light. They are aided in their battles by their mother's spirit, who was murdered by a vampire. Adria, Celestina and Anastasia are Elf princess sisters. Adria is a warrior, Celestina a sorceress, and Anastasia a scholar. I love writing this series. :). No royalties yet. But I'm still going to write this series. In fact, in the next few days I am going to make a promotional video for the first book. If any of you are interested, let me know with a reply to this comment, and I'll post a link to the first book in another reply. :). Only $2.99.

  8. I am watching this again today. It is like my go to video to be grounded again, going back to my heart, going back to courage and inspiration. Always a pleasure to witness this interview again. Thank you Oprah, thank you Joe, thank you to all the faceless people who made this interview possible!

    May love and inspiration abound!

  9. I'm crazy for both of them, but that "I still worry even being a billionaire" was THE BULLSHIT I'll never buy.

  10. She is respectful of the public she addresses to. She takes pauses before speaking, answering and picking up the right words! Rare!

  11. Never to forget that Jewish people are statistically under 15 millions around the globe. So as every minority, especially a genocided one, they defend themselves…

  12. Admirable. Not just for Harry Potter but for her whole body of work. I especially liked when she publicly stood against those assholes who wanted to boycott and " sanction" the LEGITIMATE state of Israel. Brava J. K. Rowling,RIDE ON!!

  13. omg I've just had an idea – if it would be done well, it would be amazing. A film about Dumbledore exclusively. You could start early on his life how he was so gifted and explore all his desires, the death of his sister, his alleged romance with Girndlewald…and maybe it could end with him meeting Harry as a baby or something…so sort of like a prequel to the Harry Potter series. I honestly think it would be amazing – something a bit more serious less about the special effects and more about the man himself. I would so love that! Maybe if JK Rowling was willing – even writing a book and then have it turn into a film??

  14. This interview could've gone for hours for me because though I loved the personal stuff…I would've had a million questions about the books and the characters in them. Harry Potter was a phenomenon no question about it – I can't even read them again right now because it's such an emotional rollercoaster and time consuming activity – cuz they just draw me in so deeply that once I'm in that world I can't and don't want to get out of it.

  15. 2 self-made billionaires strong feminine queens conversing… what I wouldn't give to be part of a conversation like this

  16. When JK said "You meet lots of rich people that dress atrociously" Oprah laughed uncomfortably and touched her clothes….

  17. I suffer from depression and I find writing to be the greatest therapy ever. I doubt I'll ever be as successful as Ms. Rowling, but at least I'm doing what I love.

  18. Oprah seems to not know very much about any of this. Philosopher's Stone did not "become Sorcerer's Stone", it was just changed for the international releases. She didn't even know Rowling's real name.

  19. Just stumbled across these two intelligent, beautiful, talented, and special women speaking to one another. This was really lovely to watch, there's so much to be learned in these 41 minutes.

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