"Devil May Cry 5" | Dante Theme Gets Taken Down | Composer Responds To Backlash



"I've got a score to settle with that son of a bitch!" "Devil May Cry" What's up guys? My name is RBG, and we are back with more coverage on Devil May Cry 5. In the wake of TGS 2018 the Devil May Cry community has been getting a ton of news regarding DMC5. Some of it good and some of it downright polarizing. Before we got the more positive news we were sadly overwhelmed with the bad. And that's in regards to the highly anticipated theme for DMC5's leading protagonist, Dante. We had recently gotten a snippet of what the song would entail at this years Gamescom trailer with Dante arriving at the scene with his new weapon. And I gotta admit I initially liked what I heard. I was hoping that this new song would get me even more pumped to play the game. But what I got essentially knocked the wind out of my hype sails. Less than 24 hours ago Capcom released the song titled "Subhuman" in the form of a music video on the official Devil May Cry youtube channel. And to nobody's surprise it got an overwhelming amount of backlash. Fans were shocked with Capcom's decision of opting to go with Black Metal as opposed to the usual Heavy Metal we've come so accustomed to. While I do admit that deathcore and a video game with esoteric satanic themes sounds like a match made in heaven. There was a lot not to like about this theme. 1 being the vocals. The screaming performed by Suicide Silence's lead vocalist, Eddie Mermida were downright ear wrenching. And it felt like the lyrics were trying to be too hardcore. That seemed to be the main issue fans were upset with. The production value was very poor, with some noting that the vocals overpowered the actual music. Other listeners praised the instrumentals and stated they'd rather just listen to it without vocals. And to that I have to agree. I have no issues with the actual beat. It sounds fitting for this title but when you have obnoxious vocals that drowns out what makes the song good, it's hard to listen to. Thankfully there were talented fans who were able to somewhat remedy this issue by taking the vocals out. I want you to listen to the original version. (Obnoxious Screaming) Now check out this instrumental version provided by Youtube user Millz. Hope I didn't make any of you click out of the video from undergoing that torture. Just wanted to give you a brief comparison. As you can see it sounds a lot tolerable if not better than it's original counter part. Extreme deathcore metal just doesn't fit with a series that's known for it's highly stylized action. We don't wanna be emotionally drained by the time we pick up the controller. We wanna get pumped to kill hoards of demons. This is why Casey & Ali Edwards' song, Devil Trigger has garnered generally positive praises since it's inception. While it was met with a few detractors given it's more upbeat sound. Fans were very happy with how well it correlates with the overall concept of DMC5's story. The song was so good it essentially became a tool of analysis, provoking the fans to decipher some of the lyrics to reveal plot elements. And considering the fact that it's Nero's theme I don't necessarily mind how it's different from the usual DMC sound. That's 1 of the problems I was having with Nero in DMC4, like there weren't any good themes that represented him as a character. As opposed to the awesome themes we got for Dante, Vergil, and even Lady in Devil May Cry 3. So Devil Trigger is definitely something that gives more flair to Nero. Since it's been uploaded Devil Trigger has gotten 11 million views on an unofficial DMC channel. And the music video has amassed closed to 900 thousand views. And the likes to dislikes ratio is very positive compared to the official music video for Subhuman. When I first watched the music video it had 1.5 thousand thumbs up and over 3 thousand thumbs down. The reception was so overwhelmingly negative the video was later removed. Instances like this serves as unequivocal proof that when a legion of fans scream loud enough, the big wigs have no choice but to respond. While Capcom mainly gave their response in silence, the newly announced DMC5 producer, Cody Matthew Johnson took to his instagram to stress his frustration with the negative reception. He deleted his post about an hour later but thankfully I was able to take a snapshot before it was taken down. He says and I quote. "It's been a long time coming and the team has put a lot of hard work into this project, which I'll be posting a ton more information about for over the next few weeks." "And of course my first internationally shipped and credited AAA video game would involve some of the most polarized fan bases on the internet" "a beloved cult game franchise and death core." "Don't be surprised by the hate mail filling my twitter, youtube comments, and the depths of the internet." "If people don't hate your art, you're probably doing something wrong." "Happy to stir the pot!" Now I'm not gonna lie that last bit comes off a little condescending. Which is something you don't wanna be towards the Devil May Cry community. I mean I understand how frustrating it can be pouring all your passion and energy into a project only to have it shat on by the masses. But going out of your way to say that the hate your art has garnered means you're doing something right is downright arrogant. This seems to be reoccurring issue when it comes to the community and the creators involved. It wasn't too long ago that the DmC reboot director went off of his way to slam fans opinions who didn't agree with his portrayal of Dante. And here we are in 2018 undergoing something similar with DMC5's composer. A day prior to song's announcement Cody Johnson seemed to be very excited about revealing that he was in fact producing some of the musical scores for DMC5. But I guess he was surprised when this announcement got the reaction he wasn't expecting. And as I mentioned it's totally understandable. Mr. Johnson has been on the rise, comprising music for series like Claws and Playstation's exclusive web series Powers. Upon further digging I found out that Devil May Cry 5 wasn't Johnson's first musical fore with Capcom. It was only just last year that he comprised songs for Capcom vs Marvel Infinite. A title that's arguably the worst compared to earlier entries in the popular franchise. The visuals were lacking and the songs weren't memorable at all. Ironically enough 1 of the most negatively received songs was Dante's theme, Devil's Never Cry. It was basically a remix of the Devil May Cry 3 version. And the fans absolutely hated it. While we were fortunate to have Shootie HG returning to provide his vocals, fans weren't to pleased with the uptempo cadence and compressed lyrics. And the dub step practically neutered the original heavy metal sound. It was bad enough that the developers managed to ruin Dante's overall design but allowing someone to butcher his song only add more fuel to the fire. So yeah this isn't Cody Johnson's first time quote on quote stirring the pot with fans of the beloved action hack and slasher. This time around his name just so happens to be at the forefront given how big DMC5 is. While I'm disappointed with how Dante's theme sounds I still have hope. Since Capcom has decided to remove the song I'm hoping that they'll rectify this issue by composing another song more suitable for Dante. Whether it means getting the likes of Tetsuya Shibata and Shootie HG to make magic once again. Or possibly drop the original vocals and get Shootie HG to put his spin on it. These are just some of the ideas I that I think will help Capcom get back into good graces with the fans. They were doing so well until they allowed this to happen. But anyways I think I've rambled on long enough. What are your thoughts on Dante's theme? Do you think the song sounds better without the vocals. Or do you think Capcom would do better if they bring back some of their former composers? Let me know down in the comments below. As always I ask that you like or dislike the video. It doesn't have to be a thumbs up, it can be a thumbs down. Any feedback is good feedback and will only help me improve on future content. But if you enjoyed the video it would help me out tremendously if you shared it on social media with all your friends and followers. But anyways this is your boy RBG signing out on another video. I'll catch you guys later. Peace out.

26 thoughts on “"Devil May Cry 5" | Dante Theme Gets Taken Down | Composer Responds To Backlash

  1. Don't know if they took it down, but they have a trailer with the song that sounds 10 times better than what I heard here. just look up DMC 5 in the xbox store and watch the trailer. Sounds really good over a headset!

  2. Even the revised version bites. It's Still not heavy enough. It's too basic for death metal. It's generic. It's doesn't build. It stays the same. It barely has a breakdown. Death metal is breakdown on top of breakdown on top of breakdown. This doesn't have it.

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  4. The vocals isnt bad, its just the volume overshadows sa instrument. If they lower the volume a bit.. It would sound badass for dantes theme

  5. Damn i miss masami ueda , and testuya shibata , this game has two huge letdowns that turned me off , Weak anus music and Garbage Nero , DMC4 is way better for me , but Dante looks decent n plays decent , another gripe and a problem i have is , how the heath , DT and Style switch interface looks so ugly , and before any dump ass or fanboy starts with retardation , listen to this sample of why Masami ueda , tetsuya shibata and Masato kuda are still the best Devil may cry composers ever :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atGcliA-HNw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDOGUHmdzNY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa0tv3k-wNU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0d871bN3Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mi11pfUUrk

  6. My only real problems with Subhuman are that the song was poorly mixed and the song itself doesn't fit Dante as a character. I think the vocals should have been lowered in mix, despite this not being Hermida's best performance, the quality of scream vocals works in the greater context of the song.
    The lyrics are almost unimportant for all the songs, at the very least they will be in game play scenarios considering they'll be drowned out by character quips and sound effects from attacks etc.
    As for the content of the lyrics in this context, yes they are on the edgy side, however they fit the tone of the instrumental, furthermore, you do know what you're playing, right? Since when was Devil May Cry some loftier, smarter than thy, action game… Never, is when. Its always had an edginess to it, it went hand in hand with the cheesy but stylish writing throughout the series (weather you like it or not that includes the reboot

  7. can't believe they let a pedophile write Dante's song… and on top of that Suicide Silence is a shitty band. Subhuman is, like Mago said, Hot Garbage.

  8. Shitty song from a shitty band with a deepshit singer…. goooooood riddance.

    Bring back the old composers, enough with the experiments capcom.

  9. You know what just pissed me off is that the composer has barely any experience in scoring action. HIS IDMB PAGE IS COMEDIES AND DRAMA!!! His only action scoring role is MvC:I.And that's who they got to score the game. FUCK RIGHT OFF!! I take it back.. The song ain't just mediocre, it is straight up garbage. I don't even care that they're changing singers. Dante deserves better for his last Hurrah. And an unproven, inexperienced hack composer is just insulting. I don't even care that they have changed singer. Dante's theme is just tainted.

  10. for the song… sounds bad in both ways xS i hope they changed or change it until the release xd (best case for people that like it would be if they add another song so both could play depending on the style rating)

  11. if the screams were more low pitched it would be better nd suicide silence wasnt the best choice of a band. and metal is not trash…
    Edit: its a game with demons and you kill demons amd has satanic scenerary… so why the hate on a basic metal song

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